Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. Measurements are. Joined Oct 25, 2008 Messages 5,211 Reaction score 1,736. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Actually, any 24" Mustang neck will work with the Warmoth 7/8 body. That neck may have a shim in the neck pocket to raise the neck up a little more. Last edited: Aug 8, 2020. 1,649 206. It is now ugly, but playable. The neck for it is a 20 fret 34" scale jazz. Hey folks, new guy here. I want to put a MIA Telecaster neck on the Cabronita body. 2. . This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. 6" and not 24. . . Feb 1, 2019 #5. These are the 4 guitars that don't quite individually fit my criteria. I saw a few minor cosmetic flaws, like yellow paint sprayed on the edge of the fretboard overhang and what looked like buffed out file markings on the tail end of the fretboard. number of strings = 4. If you are doing anything but a traditional neck pup check your fretboard for clearance when you determine how much past the neck it can be. Apr 20, 2005 #5. $150. So the fact that your 22-fret neck does not appear to have a headstock truss rod adjustment suggests it's not an overhang neck, and may. On the other hand, a newer Heritage Eagle Classic had more like 3/4". After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. How about supplying some references to support this premise. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . 5mm pickgaurd is standard 3 ply at around 2. 5 string necks: Warmoth 22-fret necks (no fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for Fender 22-fret necks. Its a fretboard overhang, totally normal. The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. Seems the radius in the Fender pickguard was a little smaller than the control plate. Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. In my opinion, the Jazz is also a better sounding and better looking bass as well. Hold the fine-tooth flat file against the side of the fretboard and gently drag the file from the first fret down to the last fret ( Photo 4 ). The fretboard overhang on the body is normal. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The fretboard is already cutted to the size of the neck, fret slots + nut slots are already done. Although there are ways of disguising any potential gap that can occur by angled shims in a square pocket - a fretboard overhang, having the neck pickup route right up against the neck pocket (Ibanez do this all the time on their S and RG models), hiding any gap with a. Line up the two lines. The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. Another twist: FretFind 2D also allows you to set different overhang values for the "first" and "last" string and/or the nut and bridge. 090", although there's certainly no. I. If the neck is 21 frets, with no overhang (assuming that the neck ends at fret 21) it will be 17. I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. for the 1/16th of an inch difference you don't even need to take the frets out. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. So, we have a 1. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. 10. Most Warmoth bodies and necks use the Strat®-shaped heel and neck pocket as standard. It has evidence of smoke damage, and repairs include: Neck reset (was set low on bass side), Replaced bridge plate, two spruce patches each on treble and bass side of X brace, 3 cleats to rear of sound hole, long rectangular patch underneath fretboard overhang, 5 repaired top cracks from bridge to back, two repaired top cracks on either side of. Work the spatula under the fretboard overhang. Avoid spot heating in just one place. That distances are almost equal to fretboard overhang, meanly 0. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…There will be a fretboard overhang of 1. The former offers possibilities, the latter does not. The neck has been reset to ensure. Here's the only Ebay cheapo that I found that was similar Nov 4, 2023 #29. Tried. 5mm at the zero fret. Will. 5" scale 21 fret neck installed instead. 75". The neck will act as a. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. 1,313. Angling the pocket avoids the issue of a gap at the back of the pocket. 83" at the first fret , . 090 thick. Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang (21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. PG Custom Guitars is located in the South East of England. 5" and inside the box the neck will continue in and be glued to the underside of the lid. jazz Bass 74. . There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th. It’s not something everyone can do, like changing pickups or electronics, but a skilled luthier shouldn’t have a problem replacing let’s say a rosewood fingerboard from your Gibson Les Paul guitar. Compatibility Issues. Hi Does anyone know of any AFTER MARKET manufacturers who make full 21 fret necks? I need a full neck, not a 20 fret neck with a 21st fret overhang. Widthwise, the neck is 56mm at the zero fret and about 67. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. Riverdrifter, Kenneth Mountain, dbrian66 and 1 other person. Hold the fine-tooth flat file against the side of the fretboard and gently drag the file from the first fret down to the last fret ( Photo 4 ). They give you a "firmer grip" on the notes, if you get what I. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. 625" fretboard thickness is 6. Most true-to-Strat-style bodies will be built for a 21-fret (no fretboard overhang) or 22-fret (with a 1-fret fretboard overhang) neck: this means, crucially, the bridge is positioned in relation to the neck pocket to accommodate and intonate with the assumption of a 21- or 22-fret neck. Posted October 27, 2004. This guitar will be a surprise gift for a friend with a lot of personal meaning. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. You do need the fretboard overhang like a strat but that's no biggie as well. 1,649 206. What this means is that for most OEM necks the bottom of the heel to underneath the fretboard is 3/4″ or . Screw holes lined up pretty well. 1. I ask because to thought necks with the extra frets had a fretboard overhang and this neck doesn’t Feb 18, 2022 #5. 5 radius fretboard approx . If there is not gap, there is the potential that the very bottom of the fretboard will contact the pickguard and in some cases, that pressure can cause the fretboard at that position to "ski ramp" up and cause all kinds of issues with fret. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. . 875” total length, 5” radius heel curve)I would cut the underside of the fretboard overhang. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. It doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. The only problem I'd anticipate about cutting it would be to cut into the truss rod. The fingerboard, or fretboard, is the face of the neck where your fingers work their bass playing magic. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. fingerboard with 22 frets, smooth and high density. Good to know. The only neck I have here to measure is 1-1/16 thick at the butt end to the top of the fretboard crown. Builder: Valenti Basses. 625" to . Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. prorecordingworkshop. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersBusiness, Economics, and Finance. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. 125" to play with for pickguard clearance. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Business, Economics, and Finance. Frets: 21 Stainless Steel with a fretboard overhang. 750- this gives room for a bit less than 1/8″ underneath the fretboard overhang for a pick guard. A fret leveling file is also good for this job; I just happen to prefer the finer cut of. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. However, some did have neck-break angle issues and the gap under the end of the fretboard overhang was never a constant. Though it has the same number of frets, fret 22 is on a fretboard overhang. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. #14 · Mar 7, 2017. I found a new Fender Player neck, but it interestingly seems slightly shorter than the original. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. Somewhere, Wonderful. The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. It's hard to see how it could have been done any other way. The serial is stamped on the back of the neck however. The GSR205 actually is a bit too long of a fretboard, but it appears that there's a bit of an overhang, so if I trim it enough, I'll have enough room to stick a pickup at the 24th fret position. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. Buy On Amazon. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. I am a bit shocked though, at the $2K level, they cannot give you a real neck instead of a modified mass produced neck. Place 120 grit 3M sticky sandpaper across the entire length of the straight bar now. The heal pocket measures 3 1/4 by 2 1/4 by 3/4 inches deep. Business, Economics, and Finance. Let the tool do the work—you're just guiding it. I wouldn't be in a rush to move the bridge or neck. The gap between the neck and body might be a little weird, but if the four screw holes match up, you’re probably fine. Jun 21, 2016 #14 Twisted neck! For sure. #1 I'm planning on ordering a 24. 175 mm). How can I make a stratocaster with 24 frets without any fretboard overhang that, doesn't move the neck pickup? Am I simply answering my own question? Does No overhang mean you don't have to move the neck pickup? Because I. Joined Nov 19, 2009 Messages 5,670 Points 38. Fretboard Radius 10" - 16" Compound Number of Frets 22 Inlay Shape Standard Dots Inlay Material Black Side Dots Black Side Dots Mounting Holes Standard 4-Bolt Neck Heel Shape Strat® Shape. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. The pic below shows the new neck on the bottom compared to my fender stock neck on the top. 1: in Fretfind, there is a variable called "fretboard overhang" that describes how much wider your fretboard/nut is than the outside of your strings. If you'd like a fretboard overhang, we'll have to do a headstock adjust rod. It has a Fender neck and they worked out fine. IOW, if you conventionally and properly lay out a fanned fretboard by the two outer. I use thin 0,5mm wood. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. I avoid shims if I can. 0″ neck pocket by 3/8″ and end up with a pocket depth of 5/8″. There are four input modes for overhang. 5 radius. Because I wanted to keep the option of a fully hollow version in future, the ABR-1 seemed like a good choice - I like the way they can energise a carved top. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangIf the fretboard overhang was tight, you'd risk cracking a stiff pickguard, or possibly even break off that last fret if you pulled up too hard, and tightening the neck to the body can actually put stress here. Easier with the right bit mounted in a router table. 2. Bolts on the same and intonates properly. . 25,683. If you are getting a 24-fret neck and having us build a body to go with it, you will have the option to move the neck pickup back from the neck pocket to compensate for this overhang. 2. Dec 25, 2020. White dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Tape the paper to the fretboard. The old neck had bad fret-wear and I never really fell in love with it. I designed it to fit a Warmoth 24-3/4" scale conversion tiltback neck so that it should leave a minimal fretboard overhang on the body, and sufficient neck angle to meet an ABR-1 bridge. Messages 24,425. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. Is it just so that there isn't a gap under the fretboard overhang if you have a 22 fret board and no scratchplate? Forums. 5" scale guitars, but find that 24. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. This reduces the height of the gap between the top of the body and the bottom of the fretboard where it overhangs at the 22nd fret. But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. 481” maximum heel width, 3. No problem Also I didn't say ANY PREFMIC have fretboard overhang. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. 625" to . Rounded heel design with fretboard overhang so it will fit on either a. Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. 75'' (thats a good thickness for a neck heel), and the. a 22 fret overhang on a body that originally had a 21 fret neck or vice versa. But now I have a flat fretboard again and the bass plays great and hopefully will for another 2-3 years at least. Reactions: Jupiter and Captain Nutslot. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. Post Oct 04, 2020 #125 2020-10-05T03:52. My son and I are building a guitar for him for his High School senior project. It is in solid working shape and the truss rod works properly. I got nothing else. Instead of 1/32" gap, it's 3/32". I believe I heard this was normal to prevent cracking the underside of the fretboard when attaching the bolt neck. You'd need a body designed for it. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). . Failure to do so could result in separation of the fretboard from the neck and is. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. Fanned fretboard (last string 16 inch, first string 15 inch) (You will have to use something other than a regular miter box to cut the fret slots, but it can make a really cool looking instrument)OK! I think I've got it for at least the 4 string necks. Thing is, this neck with it's extra fret doesn't have a fretboard overhang, the heel is deeper. you may want to undercut slightly underneath the fretboard, removing some of the old top underneath so that the fretboard overhangs slightly, not much, maybe 1/8". EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. 5-3mmEnter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter. 5mm) heel pocket depth is just on 0. Seeing as it was a 34" scale fretboard, I decided to keep a little overhang, as the 21 fret is right at the end of the Gibson neck now. What am I missing here? I've never had a problem sliding the PG out from under the overhang on any of my Fenders with a 22 fret neck I do find the neck pickup stops against the neck pickup rout, unless there's a swimming pool rout or it's a SC in a HB rout. Tape the paper to the fretboard. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. However you now have an extra fret without having to move the bridge. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home There are no sharp fret ends, and the volume and tone knobs have a smooth, noise-free—if somewhat limited—taper throughout their ranges. I. The pickguard certainly looks homemade. A straightedge along the fretplane falls 2,5 mm below top of bridge and there is a clear change of neck angle at 14th fret. Keeping the same scale length, the fretboard would need overhang to where the neck pickup is. Dec 21, 2005 #10 BLACKCAT69 Friend of Leo's. 105”) Heel Pocket: Fender Style (5/8” deep, 2. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang There's just enough wiggle room that you can pull up on the pickguard so you can pull it back and clear the bridge, without issue. If you like that position, it might work well. See pic. 720". Should I try to duplicate this, or is. For the math-impaired: 1. . I found this one on and it immediately won me over. Now the neck I bought is 24 frets, but I just realized. It's designed for those who are going without a pickguard and don't want a visible gap under the fretboard overhang. The fretboard overhang must rest above the body so the pickgaurd can fit underneath it. Direct typing of inches or metric is a nice feature too, without having to switch between the two measurement systems globally. In short, unless someone has done a lot of reengineering, I don't think having less fretboard overhang by itself will help the sound. I used a dremel to widen the arc. My question conerns the position of the pickguard. CryptoThe Harmony came to me almost unplayable. Reactions: chrissh. When I mentioned to the luthier about having him round it he said it wasn't necessary but would do it. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. If you run into that pickguard issue in the future, you can also trim the underside of the fretboard overhang. Then practice *edit: I forgot you had that Peavey. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. On 24 fret necks it has to be moved back toward the bridge some (taking it off. Specs: Model: A2. trock. Has anyone built this kit? And could someone measure the distance from the bottom of the fretboard overhang and the guitar body? Mine seems extreme. By: Search Advanced search…I have a customer who has a 24" scale guitar with a 21 fret neck installed, but he wants it to have a 25. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. Then I repeated this entire procedure near the bridge, since my strings are spaced at equal spaces at BOTH the nut and the bridge. Aug 8, 2020. You can use a Fender spec neck on it but unless it is a 22 fret with the fretboard overhang you will see a gap at the end between it and the neck pocket. It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. I can also clearly see there. 069 and at bridge is 2. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. Apr 13, 2020. I work out the fretboard dimensions using those plus 3mm either side for string overhang. I edited my post. . M. Purple Drink finish, with translucent black burst (*special request to have the burst stop at the flat top) 3-piece body layer option. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. org Regular. The device I have allows for the complete fretboard/neck area to be heated. On the eBay guitar it's square, like a Tele's. Not at all cheap, but well worth it IMO. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. 0345, and our neck thickness is an assumed . 92" at the 12thBone NutDuel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg hole. I know the neck pockets are the same size, by the Warmoth P neck is 21 frets. PG Custom Guitars. Jan 7, 2021 #2 cfreddy813 TDPRI Member. It’s not easy and cheap, but it can be done with a starting price of $300. If not possible, what would be the technical reason? Thanks. Equal: The scale length is from the nut to the bridge. Many times it’s necessary to change slightly the angle of a bolt-on neck in order to “bring the fretboard closer to the strings” (or lower the string hight). But yeah, maybe trimming back the fretboard overhang (maybe just on the treble side?) could do the trick, give you just a bit more real estate. Joined Jun 4, 2005 Messages 704 Reaction score 712 Location Ventura, CA. It felt just right all the way up to the end of the fretboard. Using these drawings, the outline of the fretboard, leaving a bit of an overhang for the zeroth fret, is extruded into a 6. The fretboard overhang is lower than it should, ideally, be, but the heel joint is absolutely rock solid and has not moved at all since I've had it: it should remain so for a long time to come! To optimise the action and playability I added a new Hofner-style adjustable bridge and lowered it to give an action of 3. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. 720 Mod. . Nov 14, 2018 #6 I've done a number of conversion necks with zero issues. Mar 22, 2013 286 Alabama. FretFind. Black limba body. I've also already done a trussrod slot with. Strat Neck, Rosewood Fretboard 12 Inch Radius,Rollernut,22 Fret Overhang Fretboard. 069 and at bridge is 2. Also, PRS in general is not. 125" (3. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. Roasted maple neck with Rosewood fretboard- Modern C. Although the neck has its final shape, the fretboard is slightly overhanging. 82" at the first fret , . I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. But every picture I can find online shows that there should be more than a couple centimetres of wood after the truss rod. Well, a few months ago, I happened to notice that there is quite a gap between the fretboard overhang and the pickguard, which my other Strats don't have. that 1/4 is due to an overhang of fret board over where the neck joins the heel pocket. Mar 24, 2011. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. Use the steam to gently loosen up any glue that's holding together the neck and fretboard. 5 - 27" scale with a fretboard overhang of . 25in) solid. or not. 75 is more comfortable by far. Retighten the neck screws. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. There are four input modes for overhang. There are a few Squiers and Fenders that have 22 frets without the overhang, and. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. CryptoOn my Warmoth Jazz, the neck pickup holds it in place, and the fretboard extension holds it down pretty well. Any help with this would be most appreciated!Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Would make a great main guitar, backup or mod platform. Always tempted by their 15w amp, but I have a Blues Jr already. Contact me if you want something specific, otherwise I'll give you a heel adjust spokewheel or hex nut rod. That is a 21 fret neck with no overhang, which means that it won't work with the standard bridge placement of a P bass. Cagey Senior member. The thing is, the new Pro model only has 19 frets (as opposed to the 21 on the new 59 reissue and the older reissues). It is unusual compared to other Cole's Eclipse examples I can see on the net in that it has a fretboard overhang from the 18th fret to the 22nd. I have seen where a notch has been cut out for the spoke in. Display results as threadsFretboard Contour – This is the radial slope of the fret board. Based on the unequal fretboard overhang, it looks like moving the bridge would fix the overhang and the pup alignment. Details are below so I don't bore you now. I just sanded the underside of the fretboard overhang until it cleared the pickguard when the neck is fully bolted down. I am building a guitar with a 24 fret fretboard. Jun 20, 2008. Screw holes lined up pretty well. My fretboard overhang (space between first/last string and the edge of the fretboard) is 0. The 21 fret option is standard on 32" Short Scale bass necks. The gap between the fretboard and guitar body is completely normal, however in the photo it. 5mm. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX TeslaMetallic black, awesome condition, rosewood fretboard. It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. You can do the metric equivelents. The neck thickness is 21mm in the middle of the. Just got this 2nd hand omen 7, was a bargain, but is it normal for there to be a gap between the fretboard and body? Or have i been had? ReplyThat overhang of the the rosewood to allow for a 22nd fret also allows enough space for the pickguard to slide under it. That neck-heel mark is a little strange, who knows - maybe somebody shaved off the fretboard overhang at some point. There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th fret. Special upgrades include a Badass II bridge, Greasebucket master tone, graphite-reinforced neck, and a '70s headstock logo. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. I like to see about .